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    Originally posted by Beat Hit:
    Paul Brochu, Magella Cormier, Vito Rezza, etc...
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yessss! Magella "Canadian Virgil" Cormier [img]eek.gif[/img]

    Originally posted by Navega:
    MARK WALKER - an American drummer who plays Brazilian music superbly.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great pick Navega and welcome!

    I dig Mark Walker a lot. I have him on a few Paquito D’Rivera CDs. Superb, particularly on Reunion with Arturo Sandoval where Mark is equally at ease in the brazilian and afro-cuban idioms. I saw him live with Oregon a couple years ago. Beautiful!

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    Some amazing musicians listed in this thread, for sure! Here's my list.

    Carlos Vega
    Erik Tribbett
    Ollie Brown
    Narada Michael Walden
    Gene Lake
    Tony Thompson
    Ed Greene
    Poogie Bell
    Tony Allen
    John Jab-O Starks
    Jerome Brailey
    Tiki Fulwood
    Clyde Stubblefield
    Frankie "Kash" Waddy
    Jonathan Moffett
    Stevie Wonder
    Lenny White
    Marvin McQuitty
    Calvin Napper
    Andy Newmark
    Greg Orrico
    Fred White
    Maurice White
    Michael Bland

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    [/qb][/QUOTE]Great pick Navega and welcome!

    I dig Mark Walker a lot. I have him on a few Paquito D?Rivera CDs. Superb, particularly on Reunion with Arturo Sandoval where Mark is equally at ease in the brazilian and afro-cuban idioms. I saw him live with Oregon a couple years ago. Beautiful![/QB][/QUOTE]

    Thanks, Tombo! Years ago, I saw a Brazilian TV video of Lyle Mays with Mark Walker where he played a samba-jazz in a very authentic way. Later, I saw him in other inspiring videos (also from Brazilian TV) with Michael Brecker and Paquito D'Rivera. Then, I decided to look for recordings with him and, fortunately, I found a few albums with Oregon and Paquito D'Rivera, two of my favorite artists. Now, I just bought Paquito D'Rivera's "Tico Tico" (which features Portinho and Mark Walker on drums) and I loved that cd! I haven't listened to Arturo/Paquito cd but I want to check out it in the future. Another American who plays Brazilian music very well is Mike Shapiro, who played with Gary Meek (Dave Weckl band), Airto Moreira and others. Years ago, I attended a show of John Patitucci with Mike Shapiro, here in Rio de Janeiro, and that show was great!!!

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    Man, you guys are mentioning some great cats that I didn't think of.
    And Walker & Shapiro are indeed really good players, of what I've heard of them.

    I'll add a few more:

    Chris Layton [for that 'SRV pocket']

    Paulo Braga [NYC latin-jazz/afro-brazilian drummer]

    Andy Newmark [I'm sure someone already named him!]
    Sly Dunbar
    Harvey Mason & Mike Clark [if not already named]

    Trilok Gurtu, Zakir Hussein, & many of the other exceptional middle eastern players are underrated to the mass public.

    That Swiss, Swedish, or Norwegian cat we spoke of here a while back [can't remember his name]...I think he may have played w the Esbjorn Svensson trio at Friehofer's Saratoga...

    John Staten, Karl Denson & Tiny Universe's drummer...a very good & UR player.

    Mean Willie Green [Neville Bros]...cat has a great pocket, & is very musical.

    BH - Is that the same Tony Smith who played on fusion guitarist Daryl Dobson's Mind Electric album [alongside Kenwood Dennard]?

    [BTW] - Tombo -
    ..."Magella [CAN's Virg] C"...
    ...& Vito [the Vinnie of Italy!] Rezza [img]wink.gif[/img] ...

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 24, 2004 09:02 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

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    Originally posted by Beat Hit:
    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yessss! Magella "Canadian Virgil" Cormier
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not only Chops though... I've got this Live recording of Magella playing standards with Lorraine Desmarais, taken from CBC Radio. His touch and feel reaches me so much on that recording. They played at the Phil Gould Studio (Classical Hall), and he had no choice but to keep it low and his musical side came out beautifully. I gotta convert this cassette onto CD somehow... He's one of Mordy Ferber's favorites...

    <font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ August 24, 2004 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Beat Hit ]</font></font>
    </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure I agree. But like Virgil he is "legendary" for his "pushing the limits" approach to the drums. And like Virg, he plays also good "pocket pop" as he's also a TV show drummer. He's also hired a lot for acoustic jazz, which I'm sure Virgil could do if he only wanted to.

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    Sure I agree. But like Virgil he is "legendary" for his "pushing the limits" approach to the drums. And like Virg, he plays also good "pocket pop" as he's also a TV show drummer...
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rick Gratton is like this AW. [img]wink.gif[/img]

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 24, 2004 09:25 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

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    Originally posted by Navega:


    Thanks, Tombo! Years ago, I saw a Brazilian TV video of Lyle Mays with Mark Walker where he played a samba-jazz in a very authentic way. Later, I saw him in other inspiring videos (also from Brazilian TV) with Michael Brecker and Paquito D'Rivera. Then, I decided to look for recordings with him and, fortunately, I found a few albums with Oregon and Paquito D'Rivera, two of my favorite artists. Now, I just bought Paquito D'Rivera's "Tico Tico" (which features Portinho and Mark Walker on drums) and I loved that cd! I haven't listened to Arturo/Paquito cd but I want to check out it in the future. Another American who plays Brazilian music very well is Mike Shapiro, who played with Gary Meek (Dave Weckl band), Airto Moreira and others. Years ago, I attended a show of John Patitucci with Mike Shapiro, here in Rio de Janeiro, and that show was great!!!
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tico Tico is a good CD but seek for Reunion. I need to find out more about Mike Shapiro; sounds like a great player.

    How about Duduka Da Fonseca? I'm sure you know him. I had a few lessons with him. Great brazilian drummer. Played with Astrud Gilberto and has his own brazilian jazz band: Trio Da Paz.

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    i would say omar hakim and marvin "smitty" smith, ive never really heard them being mentioned in any magazines or in message boards!

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    Yessss! Magella "Canadian Virgil" Cormier
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not only Chops though... I've got this Live recording of Magella playing standards with Lorraine Desmarais, taken from CBC Radio. His touch and feel reaches me so much on that recording. They played at the Phil Gould Studio (Classical Hall), and he had no choice but to keep it low and his musical side came out beautifully. I gotta convert this cassette onto CD somehow... He's one of Mordy Ferber's favorites...

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 24, 2004 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Beat Hit ]</font>

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    But like Virgil he is "legendary" for his "pushing the limits" approach to the drums. And like Virg, he plays also good "pocket pop" as he's also a TV show drummer. He's also hired a lot for acoustic jazz, which I'm sure Virgil could do if he only wanted to.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Very true... Magella's taken some time off away from the limelight for a season, fresh air is always good... I've heard that he's practicing like crazy once again... Can't wait for him to come out of the woods, litterally [img]wink.gif[/img] ... Great musicality in various styles with loads of chops ready to come out... Winning combination.

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